Comments on: Of Hinduism and Mangalore’s pubs http://blog.amruthaupendran.com/?p=413 ...an attempt to speak my mind with my head held high... Mon, 30 Aug 2010 18:35:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Proper gidelines makes the mind without fear everywhere http://blog.amruthaupendran.com/?p=413&cpage=2#comment-1224 Proper gidelines makes the mind without fear everywhere Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:21:50 +0000 http://blog.amruthaupendran.com/?p=413#comment-1224 Today there is not a single place where the girls mind is without fear. But if we know how to tackle with the problems we can easily roam about here and there without any fear. One of the most biggest issue now a days is "SEXUAL HARASSMENT". Pria's website helped me a lot by its instructions, we can get a wast knowledge about sexual harassment which will help us to deal easily with this problem..... Today there is not a single place where the girls mind is without fear. But if we know how to tackle with the problems we can easily roam about here and there without any fear. One of the most biggest issue now a days is “SEXUAL HARASSMENT”. Pria’s website helped me a lot by its instructions, we can get a wast knowledge about sexual harassment which will help us to deal easily with this problem…..

]]> By: Kumar http://blog.amruthaupendran.com/?p=413&cpage=2#comment-678 Kumar Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:15:05 +0000 http://blog.amruthaupendran.com/?p=413#comment-678 Well i never leave or let my girl to be beaten up by any goonda when i goto Pub..She will be in safe hands.Okay my flight to chennai is anounced & ready.Bye. Well i never leave or let my girl to be beaten up by any goonda when i goto Pub..She will be in safe hands.Okay my flight to chennai is anounced & ready.Bye.

]]> By: Kumar http://blog.amruthaupendran.com/?p=413&cpage=2#comment-673 Kumar Sun, 21 Jun 2009 07:49:32 +0000 http://blog.amruthaupendran.com/?p=413#comment-673 Amrutha, Are you married or single. How often you visit pubs and in which city.You have fun in what sense..in pubs?.. Do you keep your parents informed when you goto pub..? Do you make it overnight or .. just only for an evening... <em>It's none of your business whether I am married or single. Also, I don't need to answer any of your questions, because no matter WHAT I do, I shouldn't be beaten up by some random goondas. Even if I were fucking around, I shouldn't be molested or raped. Why is it so difficult for you guys to get that?</em> Amrutha,
Are you married or single.
How often you visit pubs and in which city.You have fun in what sense..in pubs?..
Do you keep your parents informed when you goto pub..?
Do you make it overnight or .. just only for an evening…

It’s none of your business whether I am married or single. Also, I don’t need to answer any of your questions, because no matter WHAT I do, I shouldn’t be beaten up by some random goondas. Even if I were fucking around, I shouldn’t be molested or raped. Why is it so difficult for you guys to get that?

]]> By: How tempting and how impossible! « The Life and Times of an Indian Homemaker http://blog.amruthaupendran.com/?p=413&cpage=2#comment-639 How tempting and how impossible! « The Life and Times of an Indian Homemaker Tue, 26 May 2009 16:14:44 +0000 http://blog.amruthaupendran.com/?p=413#comment-639 [...] Amrutha for “My upbringing in a Hindu mission school taught me to respect others’ faiths and beliefs and not try to convert. My conscience taught me believe in the inherent freedom of the individual to do what he/she deems right. My study of women’s studies taught me that women are disadvantaged. My sense of justice taught me to fight for that equality in reality.” [...] [...] Amrutha for “My upbringing in a Hindu mission school taught me to respect others’ faiths and beliefs and not try to convert. My conscience taught me believe in the inherent freedom of the individual to do what he/she deems right. My study of women’s studies taught me that women are disadvantaged. My sense of justice taught me to fight for that equality in reality.” [...]

]]> By: Dr Roshan http://blog.amruthaupendran.com/?p=413&cpage=1#comment-592 Dr Roshan Sun, 08 Mar 2009 21:15:31 +0000 http://blog.amruthaupendran.com/?p=413#comment-592 aaahh !!! My head was hurting reading that last big crap.. sorry, comment by Deepak Kamat. I agree with the comments that followed.. forget it. He's a fanatic and a cyber-goon. If he's the future of Hinduism, well, India's screwed. For me, Mangalore was personal. I don't know if you knew Mangalore from 2000, but it was a beautiful place where Hindus, Muslims and Christians all lived peacefully and shared each others festivals with joy. I used to be able to tell ppl 'look at your useless metros fighting to prove religious supremacy. 'My' Mangalore is so free of such worries. Sadly, now, I can only stand ashamed of how badly things have gone. At the risk of adding a political comment, all this started after the damn fanatics took over Karnataka... if you ask me, its fine ( expected ? ) that politicians will steal cash, but this violence in name of religion is a terrible and sadly effective new trend that this nation has started sporting.. Anyway, just wanted to give my two pence on the topic... http://godyears.blogspot.com/2009/01/live-free-or-die-hard.html aaahh !!! My head was hurting reading that last big crap.. sorry, comment by Deepak Kamat. I agree with the comments that followed.. forget it. He’s a fanatic and a cyber-goon. If he’s the future of Hinduism, well, India’s screwed.
For me, Mangalore was personal. I don’t know if you knew Mangalore from 2000, but it was a beautiful place where Hindus, Muslims and Christians all lived peacefully and shared each others festivals with joy. I used to be able to tell ppl ‘look at your useless metros fighting to prove religious supremacy. ‘My’ Mangalore is so free of such worries. Sadly, now, I can only stand ashamed of how badly things have gone.
At the risk of adding a political comment, all this started after the damn fanatics took over Karnataka… if you ask me, its fine ( expected ? ) that politicians will steal cash, but this violence in name of religion is a terrible and sadly effective new trend that this nation has started sporting..
Anyway, just wanted to give my two pence on the topic…
http://godyears.blogspot.com/2009/01/live-free-or-die-hard.html

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]]> By: AM I A HINDU? Best Seller http://blog.amruthaupendran.com/?p=413&cpage=1#comment-563 AM I A HINDU? Best Seller Sat, 21 Feb 2009 23:01:27 +0000 http://blog.amruthaupendran.com/?p=413#comment-563 Amrutha, thanks for your great blog. I am not sure all those fanatics who went about assaulting those poor girls in Mangalore have any clue about Vedas or 13 principal Upanishads. Little they know about "Kama Sutra" or "Tantras" and still they project themselves of defenders of Hinduism, which need no protection at all. Hinduism [ HINDU CULTURE ] withstood all kind of persecutions and attacks for centuries and still standing tall in the world. We already have a problem of young Hindus shying away from Hinduism thinking it is very complex and some what dogmatic. These kind of acts from fanatics who have nothing to do with Hinduism will only make matters worse. Little they know the fact that the most important aspect of Hinduism is FREEDOM OF THOUGHTS AND ACTIONS. Even an atheist has the ABSOLUTE RIGHT to condemn Hinduism in the public and still proudly proclaim he or she is a Hindu. Voltaire in Essay on Tolerance wrote: "I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death, your right to say it." Hinduism is the symbolic representation of what Voltaire wrote. So sad that fanatics do not understand that fact. Amrutha, thanks for your great blog.

I am not sure all those fanatics who went about assaulting those poor girls in Mangalore have any clue about Vedas or 13 principal Upanishads. Little they know about “Kama Sutra” or “Tantras” and still they project themselves of defenders of Hinduism, which need no protection at all.

Hinduism [ HINDU CULTURE ] withstood all kind of persecutions and attacks for centuries and still standing tall in the world.

We already have a problem of young Hindus shying away from Hinduism thinking it is very complex and some what dogmatic.

These kind of acts from fanatics who have nothing to do with Hinduism will only make matters worse. Little they know the fact that the most important aspect of Hinduism is FREEDOM OF THOUGHTS AND ACTIONS.

Even an atheist has the ABSOLUTE RIGHT to condemn Hinduism in the public and still proudly proclaim he or she is a Hindu.

Voltaire in Essay on Tolerance wrote: “I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death, your right to say it.”

Hinduism is the symbolic representation of what Voltaire wrote. So sad that fanatics do not understand that fact.

]]> By: Amar Akbar Anthony http://blog.amruthaupendran.com/?p=413&cpage=1#comment-559 Amar Akbar Anthony Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:40:11 +0000 http://blog.amruthaupendran.com/?p=413#comment-559 hmm, according to my little research i have found out that a lot of males (of Hindu community) have started to understand the evil of some muslim fundamentalists (brainwashed by osamas) who are hell bent on Islamization of India by terror, some of the christian conversions and provocations (joshua project etc) and the biased english news channels like ndtv, cnn-ibn (for your kindest of info all these channels are funded from foreign business outfits!) which provide one-sided stories to suit their masters. Just becoz the anchors look smart and speak good english doesnt mean that they always tell you the truth! I find that a lot of Hindu girls somehow have been taking all that comes in the media as granted, please for heaven's sake read both sides of the story and come to a judgement. like you all of us have been and are secular but when there is something fishy going on against the religion, we better be careful in understanding the truth rather than jumping to a conclusion straightaway. there is no smoke without fire. the taliban is just a few kms away and probably you are probably not aware of the thousands of illegal immigrants coming from the bangladeshi side and infiltrating into our otherwise normal secular society. BTW I am no Hindu fanatic as you would like to call but let me tell you we are and always will be good friends of all the secular muslims, christians, sikhs or anyone. We are going to face a testing period in the coming days and we got to remain united against the anti-nationalists. hmm, according to my little research i have found out that a lot of males (of Hindu community) have started to understand the evil of some muslim fundamentalists (brainwashed by osamas) who are hell bent on Islamization of India by terror, some of the christian conversions and provocations (joshua project etc) and the biased english news channels like ndtv, cnn-ibn (for your kindest of info all these channels are funded from foreign business outfits!) which provide one-sided stories to suit their masters. Just becoz the anchors look smart and speak good english doesnt mean that they always tell you the truth! I find that a lot of Hindu girls somehow have been taking all that comes in the media as granted, please for heaven’s sake read both sides of the story and come to a judgement. like you all of us have been and are secular but when there is something fishy going on against the religion, we better be careful in understanding the truth rather than jumping to a conclusion straightaway. there is no smoke without fire. the taliban is just a few kms away and probably you are probably not aware of the thousands of illegal immigrants coming from the bangladeshi side and infiltrating into our otherwise normal secular society. BTW I am no Hindu fanatic as you would like to call but let me tell you we are and always will be good friends of all the secular muslims, christians, sikhs or anyone. We are going to face a testing period in the coming days and we got to remain united against the anti-nationalists.

]]> By: vasudev http://blog.amruthaupendran.com/?p=413&cpage=1#comment-543 vasudev Sun, 15 Feb 2009 08:38:42 +0000 http://blog.amruthaupendran.com/?p=413#comment-543 [So, according to you, only Muslims abuse their wives?] you missed the point i was trying to make! in kerala, which hitherto had seen decent public behavior, is now suddenly seeing indecent expose of religious might! (a new kind of a threat). someone is deliberately trying to bring in saudi arabia into kerala and india. kerala is now a haven of islamic terrorists (or didn't you know that?). it is only the rss which is constantly keeping these guys under check. <em>Just WHO is the RSS to keep things in check? You think it's more legitimate than the government?</em> a muslim is more of a muslim and a christian is more of a christian, ever bowing to fatwas of one kind or another and there is no big/small/high/low in that. one word and all your friends would turn against you as one. <em>That shows you have no REAL friends. Friends are those who will stay with you come hell or high water.</em> it is only the ever-free hindu who has no oneness with the faith or with their own kinds. hindus think they are noble souls. yes...but then they also pay a price for that ultimately. the loss of their identity and freedom to those who are abrahamic. because...islam and christianity preach hatred for others...hinduism preaches oneness of everything. but thinking that you are one need not necessarily mean that you have to be an idiot and leave your flanks open and ungaurded on all fronts so that the others can come and attack you at will! the mangalore pub attack was a fitting reply to islamic forces who were mis-using the hindu freedom and doing things to the hindus. it is also a warning to christians. there would be more such incidents on a larger scale in india. <em>Are you threatening goondaism? It's not easy to scare a billion people. Remember that.</em> ultimately no one cares what two computer totting idiots must think in their exchanges. the upper crust pub going gentry do not matter. they can always serve as an example and be made examples of. the message has gone. ram sene is popular. middle and lower middle class votes are for them. they do not want their children to follow wanton ways. in a democracy what the majority thinks matters. <em>You are under-estimating the power of democracy. The "people" you are talking of are not stupid. And ultimately, whether I matter or not, I will continue to speak out against what I think is wrong. Yesterday was Valentine's Day. What could your Ram Sena do?</em> [So, according to you, only Muslims abuse their wives?]

you missed the point i was trying to make! in kerala, which hitherto had seen decent public behavior, is now suddenly seeing indecent expose of religious might! (a new kind of a threat). someone is deliberately trying to bring in saudi arabia into kerala and india. kerala is now a haven of islamic terrorists (or didn’t you know that?). it is only the rss which is constantly keeping these guys under check.

Just WHO is the RSS to keep things in check? You think it’s more legitimate than the government?

a muslim is more of a muslim and a christian is more of a christian, ever bowing to fatwas of one kind or another and there is no big/small/high/low in that. one word and all your friends would turn against you as one.

That shows you have no REAL friends. Friends are those who will stay with you come hell or high water.

it is only the ever-free hindu who has no oneness with the faith or with their own kinds. hindus think they are noble souls. yes…but then they also pay a price for that ultimately. the loss of their identity and freedom to those who are abrahamic. because…islam and christianity preach hatred for others…hinduism preaches oneness of everything. but thinking that you are one need not necessarily mean that you have to be an idiot and leave your flanks open and ungaurded on all fronts so that the others can come and attack you at will!

the mangalore pub attack was a fitting reply to islamic forces who were mis-using the hindu freedom and doing things to the hindus. it is also a warning to christians. there would be more such incidents on a larger scale in india.

Are you threatening goondaism? It’s not easy to scare a billion people. Remember that.

ultimately no one cares what two computer totting idiots must think in their exchanges. the upper crust pub going gentry do not matter. they can always serve as an example and be made examples of. the message has gone. ram sene is popular. middle and lower middle class votes are for them. they do not want their children to follow wanton ways. in a democracy what the majority thinks matters.

You are under-estimating the power of democracy. The “people” you are talking of are not stupid. And ultimately, whether I matter or not, I will continue to speak out against what I think is wrong. Yesterday was Valentine’s Day. What could your Ram Sena do?

]]> By: vasudev http://blog.amruthaupendran.com/?p=413&cpage=1#comment-542 vasudev Sun, 15 Feb 2009 08:23:34 +0000 http://blog.amruthaupendran.com/?p=413#comment-542 [What I object to is the unnecessary and unacceptable hate against one particular religion.] amrutha... how do i use italics to highlight? is it there on your key-board? <em>Use the " /em tag" to insert italics in your comment. It's a usual HTML tag.</em> commenting in reply to the one within brackets, let me ask you a few questions: i guess you are a hindu? i suppose so. <em>My religion shouldn't matter.But, since you ask, yes. I am a Hindu, but not of the Hindutva kind. I am a liberal, moderate and thinking Hindu</em> 1. do you agree that hinduism is a dying religion in india currently? <em>No. I don't believe Hinduism is disappearing. It has survived over 5000 years, and can still stand the onslaught of anything else. If it has survived, it's because if its tolerant nature.</em> 2. do you agree that hinduism never had a history of being an aggressor but was a religion which was always aggressed upon? <em>Yes, I do. But, that's history. One wrong cannot be righted with another wrong. That's what I am trying to say.</em> 3. do you agree that both islam and christianity (especially christianity) is growing in india? <em>I must look at statistics to be able to comment on that one. Even if they are, so what? Are you jealous of the growth?</em> 4. do you agree that these abrahamic faiths are spreading false and baseless stories about hinduism? <em>Again, the answer would depend on how you look at things. Yes, some people are lured by money or other inducements and decide to convert. Hindus are not paragons of virtue either. The fault lies on both sides.</em> 5. do you also agree that the growth of hindutva wadis has taken root from such methods of conversions? <em>Conversions have nothing to do with it. It's not about religion. It's about power and how these people choose to exercise it.</em> 6. can you cite examples of hinduism engaging in the same dirty tricks that christianity is doing to hinduism? (do not give me examples of re-conversions) <em>Ha! Reconversions indeed! Want to know? My colleague was forced to convert from the Christian faith <strong>and </strong> change her name because the Arya Samaj refused to get her married to a Hindu otherwise. That's justifiable?</em> 7. do you agree that hinduism is now a minority in states it was a majority before? <em>Again, look at the statistics. I don't know. But, statistical interpretation is a different issue.</em> 8. do you also know that wherever it has been reduced as a minority both christians and muslims who are in majority are making the life of these hindus difficult? <em>Like Hindus made THEIR lives difficult for over 500 years? I personally know people who have been denied houses on rent because they are Muslim. That kind of discrimination is ok?</em> 9. do you want to remain in a free india? <em>Yes. Free from the likes of the Bajrang Dal and the Sri Ram Sena.</em> 10. do you think your life would be better if you converted to islam or christianity? <em>Conversions are an individual's choice. The reason I am speaking out against the Mangalore attacks is that I believe Hinduism as a religion is grossly misunderstood and misinterpreted.</em> [What I object to is the unnecessary and unacceptable hate against one particular religion.]

amrutha…

how do i use italics to highlight? is it there on your key-board?

Use the ” /em tag” to insert italics in your comment. It’s a usual HTML tag.

commenting in reply to the one within brackets, let me ask you a few questions:

i guess you are a hindu? i suppose so.

My religion shouldn’t matter.But, since you ask, yes. I am a Hindu, but not of the Hindutva kind. I am a liberal, moderate and thinking Hindu

1. do you agree that hinduism is a dying religion in india currently?

No. I don’t believe Hinduism is disappearing. It has survived over 5000 years, and can still stand the onslaught of anything else. If it has survived, it’s because if its tolerant nature.

2. do you agree that hinduism never had a history of being an aggressor but was a religion which was always aggressed upon?

Yes, I do. But, that’s history. One wrong cannot be righted with another wrong. That’s what I am trying to say.

3. do you agree that both islam and christianity (especially christianity) is growing in india?

I must look at statistics to be able to comment on that one. Even if they are, so what? Are you jealous of the growth?

4. do you agree that these abrahamic faiths are spreading false and baseless stories about hinduism?

Again, the answer would depend on how you look at things. Yes, some people are lured by money or other inducements and decide to convert. Hindus are not paragons of virtue either. The fault lies on both sides.

5. do you also agree that the growth of hindutva wadis has taken root from such methods of conversions?

Conversions have nothing to do with it. It’s not about religion. It’s about power and how these people choose to exercise it.

6. can you cite examples of hinduism engaging in the same dirty tricks that christianity is doing to hinduism? (do not give me examples of re-conversions)

Ha! Reconversions indeed! Want to know? My colleague was forced to convert from the Christian faith and change her name because the Arya Samaj refused to get her married to a Hindu otherwise. That’s justifiable?

7. do you agree that hinduism is now a minority in states it was a majority before?

Again, look at the statistics. I don’t know. But, statistical interpretation is a different issue.

8. do you also know that wherever it has been reduced as a minority both christians and muslims who are in majority are making the life of these hindus difficult?

Like Hindus made THEIR lives difficult for over 500 years? I personally know people who have been denied houses on rent because they are Muslim. That kind of discrimination is ok?

9. do you want to remain in a free india?

Yes. Free from the likes of the Bajrang Dal and the Sri Ram Sena.

10. do you think your life would be better if you converted to islam or christianity?

Conversions are an individual’s choice. The reason I am speaking out against the Mangalore attacks is that I believe Hinduism as a religion is grossly misunderstood and misinterpreted.

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